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     Ronnie Lyons Intermediate Member Username: ronlyons Post Number: 277 Registered: 01-2001 Posted From: 98.24.14.99 |
I don't know how many people caught it, but National Geographic ran another special the other night, this time mainly on some fringe theories of how the GP was built... it wasn't too bad, some of the ideas made some sense although there as usual wasn't much evidence to support them. It generally focused on one man's contention that the pyramid was built with an internal ramp system, and presented some sort of 'heat' evidence from the French team that entered the queens chamber 15 years ago that there's a spiral heat pattern emanating from the pyramid, suggesting some sort of undiscovered ramp near the exterior spiraling around the structure to the top. On a more evidence-based note, one interesting thing was that they sent a guy up the outside of the Great Pyramid, to the so-called "notch", an area on one edge that has several stones missing, I believe it was about two thirds up. When the gentleman arrived up there, there was a small passage behind a stone, and then a small 'room' behind the exterior of the pyramid. I'd never heard of that before! They showed extensive video and basically it's just an area where several stones are missing INSIDE the exterior layer of stones viewable from the ground. The room was 10x10feet or so, and of course it wasn't finished and didn't look to be designed that way, it looked more like an area where stones had been removed, although the outer layer of stones was intact and hid the 'room' from view. Does anybody have any information about this area? They presented it as if it was new information but I'm skeptical of that. | ||
| Janine Williams Senior Member Username: janine Post Number: 1240 Registered: 09-2002 Posted From: 69.134.120.243 |
Ronnie: I missed the Nat Geographic special on the GP, but have never heard of the "notch" or 10 x10 ft room they mentioned. As far as I know it was not reported by Petre. It would be a very difficult excavation to do if it is inside the exterior layer of stones. I.e. most of the exterior stones being left intact. Also, what for? It's too high up to be convenient for anything. Since fringe theories are being discussed, computer graphics comes to mind. Any hint of this? I don't suppose they showed any removed stones on the ground? Sincerely, Janine | ||
| Janine Williams Senior Member Username: janine Post Number: 1241 Registered: 09-2002 Posted From: 69.134.120.243 |
Ronnie, Nat Geo re-ran the special you mentioned. Besides the small room opening off the "notch", there were additional crevasses, large enough for a body to step through them, that led out of the room toward the interior of the pyramid. I wonder if and when these crevasses will be explored? They could be dislodged blocks shifted by repeated earthquakes. On the other hand someone could be walking around inside secret passages. What fun that would be! Sincerely, Janine | ||
| Ronnie Lyons Intermediate Member Username: ronlyons Post Number: 281 Registered: 01-2001 Posted From: 98.24.14.99 |
I find it hard to believe, being an extreme skeptic, that the passages are passages, rather maybe just areas as you said where the stones have shifted. The 'room' though is certainly interesting, it was pretty large to just be anything more than something that was intentionally done. I doubt that it was put into the design, it looked to me as if maybe it had been 'dug out' as the pyramid perhaps was stripped of it's outer casing. I don't really have a way of describing it very good, but as you saw there's an area on the corner, about two thirds up where several blocks are missing. At that area, there's a flat spot, where there's almost an alcove or something on the corner, maybe again 10 feet by 10 feet wide, then behind a few of the stones was a small passageway, ducking under the remaining outer stones, into a small room, about 10X10 with rough stones but certainly a hollowed out area BEHIND the outer stones visible from the ground. Then on from there were small passages between some stones leading further in, although they were too small to traverse. What I honestly thought when I saw it was, this would be a great place for a homeless person to sleep! That'd be a lot of work hollowing that out, though. Still curious if anybody had heard of this area before? | ||
| Mel Coldwell Junior Member Username: melco Post Number: 74 Registered: 09-2002 Posted From: 136.8.150.6 |
This could be relatively recent. Its a sensible position for a WW2 observation/signaling/gun position. Anyone stationed there would not appreciate the climbing involved or being exposed to the elements so this would create the desire for shelter. The military would have the resources to remove some stones. On the small passages:- We have seen evidence that the AE built structures that consist of separated structural elements filled with smaller debries so its possible the internal structure of the GP consists of more widely spaced blocks with the gaps filled in this manner. What may be reported here is simply where the fill is removed leaving the smaller passages. | ||
| Ronnie Lyons Intermediate Member Username: ronlyons Post Number: 282 Registered: 01-2001 Posted From: 98.24.14.99 |
Yes, that would make a great Gun turret. | ||
| Casey Griffith New member Username: cgriff Post Number: 13 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 64.91.222.132 |
I did not see the TV special (sounds like an interesting watch), but just to make sure, are we possibly talking about the area of the pyramid that had been blasted with dynamite by early excavators in search of the original pyramid entrance? | ||
| Ronnie Lyons Intermediate Member Username: ronlyons Post Number: 283 Registered: 01-2001 Posted From: 98.24.14.99 |
I don't believe so, it's kind of hard to explain the area that we're talking about. The pyramid (any pyramid!) has 4 ridges running up the sides, correct? They meet at the top, each one is a 'corner' of the pyramid. This area that we're talking about is on one of the corners, about 2/3rds of the way up the pyramid. It's not on a face like the entrance is, it's on a corner... they called it "the notch", because if you look at a picture of the pyramid, the corner edges rise up pretty evenly in a diagonal line to the top, but in this area, the stones are cut back 10 or 15 feet. 3 or 4 'rows' of the stones have been cut back and removed so as to make one wide row to stand on... So essentially, it's a platform or flatspot in the edge of the pyramid, quite a ways up. When the gentleman climbed up to it, he was able to stand there pretty easily on the platform, back several feet from the edge of the pyramid. He saw a small passage behind one of the exposed stones, ducked behind it, and was standing in a rough room about 10X10. Standing in the room, you can't be seen from outside because you've ducked behind a block to get in there. It was large enough to stand up in easily. It wasn't a finished room like any of the interior rooms, but rather looked like several of the blocks had been removed, the roof was rough like a cave (although you could tell that it was made of blocks that had been eroded or worn away), the walls weren't flat but looked eroded and rounded off like the exterior of the pyramid does today, and in certain spots there were huge cracks between the 'blocks' that made up the walls, some large enough to squeeze into. There weren't any big enough that he could crawl through, they just looked like irregularities in the way the blocks were fit together. A picture would be worth a thousand words, there's really not much to it but it was fascinating. | ||
| Ronnie Lyons Intermediate Member Username: ronlyons Post Number: 284 Registered: 01-2001 Posted From: 98.24.14.99 |
I did some searches online and found some of the more fringe sites abuzz about it... I dont' want to post any of the links here because I know Guardians frowns upon fringe theories, and I can understand why. Some of the info I've read though says that the notch is on the NE corner, about 375 feet up. The room is L-shaped, and there's graffiti on one stone that says "1845" inside the room. They are using this 'room' to support a theory that holds that there's a huge ramp like the grand gallery spiraling around the inside of the pyramid, and that's how they raised the blocks. When they got to the edges, they had to manipulate the blocks around the corner, so they had platforms to slide the block around and then back into the ramp going up the other way... they're supposing this room is the remnants of one of those platforms.... which is hooey because the 'room' is totally unfinished and obviously has been carved out of the stones after they were placed. |
