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Mel Coldwell (136.8.159.11)
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2002 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

From the discussion on releaving chambers i think you are working the wrong way round.
Customer: "Give me a chamber with a flat roof."
Architect 1: The weight above would be too great. We have to corbel it.
Customer: I want a flat roof or i'll cut your **** off.
Architect 1: OK, i supose we could put slabs across and then corbel it. It will be a very high corbel and a lot of work though.
Apprentice architect: Sir, supose we sort of alternate a big corbel and then put a slab across.
Architect 1: Mmm. Not bad. In fact we only need to corbel until the width is small enough to put a gabel in.

Do we know if the releaving chambers actually get smaller?
And more importantly: Why does the 'kings chamber' need a flat roof?
Just a thought.
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jd degreef (213.177.158.152)
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2002 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Mel,
The idea that the KC relieving structures are the equivalent of a corbel vault has already been published, but the vault doesn't get much narrower as one goes up.
The granite beams crossing between the N & S walls may have been inspired by the massive cedar wood ones, which had to be placed in Snefru's Bent Pyramid.
Your question "why does the 'kings chamber' need a flat roof ?" is an excellent one, but unfortunately one that isn't easy to answer. Maybe the standard shape of a room was supposed to be flat-roofed (I guess most rooms are). The corbel vaults may have been imposed by technical motives (stability), but may not have been fundamentally desirable from a religious-symbolic point of view. This could be confirmed by the fact that some of the Dahchur mastabas dating from Snefru's reign have a burial chamber with a partial corbel vault, i.e. a few corbels at the top of the walls, and then a flat roof (as soon as one deemed the room narrow enough ?).
On the other hand, the QC type roof which appears under Khufu may soon have acquired a religious symbolism of its own (it looks like Anubis' Purification Tent) : the lower chamber of Khafre's pyramid is entirely cut into the bedrock, but its roof has been carved in the shape of an entirely unnecessary gable vault (unnecessary for structural purposes, I mean). Except for the burial chambers of Menkaure and Shepseskaf (rounded gable roofs in the shape of granaries), all later Old Kingdom burial- and anterooms will be of this type.

JD
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Monty B. (203.221.69.171)
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2002 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mel,Hi
I would like to see an elevation from the other side.
If I,am right we receive the cross section ,not the side veiw (the long side).
Regards,

Monty
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Monty B. (203.221.62.207)
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2002 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mel,
They would not have been able to walk on them if they were gabled.
In the cross section check the two worn areas out, that is, on top of the releiving slabs.
Yes a ladder or steps to convey water from the KC to the job at hand.
Supply Line? Shafts.
Regards

Monty......hope pope gone to bed
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Pope (217.230.77.43)
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 05:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

(offtopic)

??? Is this getting personal? Hope not.

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